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The Ydeals Noise-Free Guide To Getting The Best Deal On Flights From Vancouver to Bangkok
 | There are thousands of travel sites out there, all wanting you to believe they have unique or special prices on airfares to Bangkok. They don't. They use marketing noise to hide the fact that there is really only one source of unique prices on flights to Bangkok. This guide will remove the noise and show you what that source is, so you can stop wasting so much time when searching for the best deal. |
What are the unique sources of prices on flights from Vancouver (YVR) to Bangkok (BKK) ?
Unique Source #1 - The Major Airlines
There are 19 major airlines that fly from Vancouver to Bangkok, and they are: Air Canada, Air China, Air New Zealand, American Airlines, ANA, Austrian Airlines, Cathay Pacific, China Airlines, China Eastern Air, China Southern, Delta, EVA Air, Japan Airlines, KLM, Korean Air, Lufthansa, Philippine Airlines, SWISS, and United Airlines.
Where should I look to get the best Bangkok flight deal?
All you need to do is search all the major airlines, preferably at once. My current favorite way to do this would be using Google Flights Explorer because you can just enter 'Bangkok' into the 'To' box, and see current Thai airfares from all the major airlines, at one time. Not to mention how easy it is to browse through different date combinations.
Even if you're planning to go for a longer date range than this tool supports (currently up to 2 weeks), it will give you an excellent idea of what the typical bottom price is right now to Bangkok, and which airline(s) it can be found on. Use it as a starting point, and then use a tool with more precise search options, such as...
My second favorite way would be to search using Kayak. It has all the sort and filter options I need, and searches all major airlines. Click on 'Make my dates flexible' and set it to '+/- 3 days'. You may be surprised how often being a little flexible with your dates can result in a better price.
In the 'To' box, enter 'Bangkok, Thailand (BKK)' as your destination airport.
What about the thousands of other travel sites that have airfares to Bangkok?
This is the noise. There is no shortage of travel sites or brands trying to convince you that they have the cheapest flights from Vancouver to Bangkok. The truth is though, there's only one unique source of prices that they're gathering their prices from, and that's the prices from the major airlines themselves. They can't offer a lower price to Thailand than the airline itself, as there's already virtually no markup.
There's a few reasons why I think B.C. travellers waste an enormous amount of time checking multiple websites, hoping for a better deal than the one they already found (studies show it to be an average of 22 different sites over 10 periods of research!). The first reason is just human nature. We all want to compare prices and make sure we're getting the best deal.
But I think the biggest reason is simply the noise of travel marketing. With so many travel sites and brands competing for your attention, all hoping you'll book through them, combined with the fact that not one of them will *ever* admit to you that their source of prices is the same as everyone else, it's little wonder travelers waste so much time searching.
What about searching the airline's website directly?
There's nothing wrong with doing that. It's usually just a lot easier to search all of the airlines at once, with a better interface using a good search tool. It's amazing how poor many of the airline's search interfaces are. The fares found on any half-decent search engine will be the same as the fares found on the airline's own website.
One thing you can do is just use a flight search tool to scan all the airlines at once, and then go to the airline's own site to book it once you've figured out exactly which flight you want, and what the price is.
Another thing to be aware of is that the more sophisticated travel search engines can combine flights from multiple airlines to find cheaper options, especially on international flights, that you won't find on the airline's website.
What about my local Vancouver travel agency or independent travel agent in B.C.?
They're seeing the same prices you are. Depending on the agency or agent, they may or may not charge you a 'booking fee' on top of the airfare price, for their time. As there's virtually no markup on the cost of flights, they can't offer you a price to Bangkok that's any cheaper than from the airline, or from a search tool that properly searches the latest airfares.
When should I book a Bangkok flight to get the best price?
This is never an easy question to answer, as airfares are not 100% predictable. Airlines start by setting their price at a level they think will fill the maximum number of seats, based on the demand they expect to see. If they experience less demand than they expected, they may decide to lower them. If they experience more demand than they expected, they may raise them. Unfortunately, a lot of factors that influence demand can be unpredictable.
How long a person can wait it out in hopes of a better price is a personal decision. Personally though, I am usually not afraid to watch prices on the major airlines up to about 8 weeks before departure in hopes of a better price without fear of the price rising. But everyone has a different tolerance for risk.
What about last minute Bangkok deals?
Last minute airfare deals to Bangkok on the major airlines don't really exist. Typical of most airfares on the major airlines, as you get fairly close to the departure date, if the airline has done their job correctly, and filled most of the seats on the plane, they feel the last remaining seats become more valuable, and often decide to raise the price.
What's a decent airfare price to Bangkok?
From Vancouver, flights to Bangkok (BKK) tend to bottom out around $1050-$1150 roundtrip after taxes. This is just a general guideline though, based on average demand periods of the year.
Airfare prices are highly affected by demand. So anytime you can think of a reason that there might be higher demand than usual for travel to Bangkok (such as dates when many people in Vancouver have holiday time) you can expect prices to react accordingly.
What about one way flights to Bangkok?
One-way flights to overseas international destinations on the major airlines can often be expensive. Sometimes they are even more than roundtrip flights, which may seem strange!
But luckily from Vancouver to Bangkok, some of the Asian-based airlines are offering decent fares that are between 50-60% of the roundtrip price. Have a look at China Eastern Air and China Southern in particular. Use the same search techniques as for round-trip flights, and just change the search option in your favorite search tool to 'one-way'.
What about non-stop flights to Bangkok?
From Vancouver, there are no major airlines that offer direct flights to Bangkok (BKK).
The fastest it can typically be done is with around 16 to 17 hours of travel time in each direction (including layover time). The flights on Air Canada or Cathay Pacific (or a combination of the two) with one-stop in each direction are about as fast as it can be done. Flights with China Airlines, with 1 stop in Taiwan each way, are also very fast.
What about a multi-city flight? Such as into Bangkok and out of another city in Asia?
Searching for multi-city Asian flights in travel is still a bit of a pain. Even Google Explorer currently can't handle it, as there's too many possible combinations. I'm sure eventually someone (likely Google) will put enough processing power behind it and create something useful for searching multi-city fares.
But for now, you're stuck with searching one departure date at a time when it comes to multi-city fares and experimenting with different destination combinations. Most of the decent travel sites will offer a multi-city option (it should be right next to 'one-way' and 'round-trip').
Kayak would be my preferred option here. Just click on the 'multi-city' option and in the first box, enter in Vancouver to Bangkok (BKK), or whatever airport you want to fly into, and then in the second box, enter Ho Chi Minh (SGN) to Vancouver, or whatever airport you want to fly out of.
You never really know what you're going to get with a multi-city fare. It can often be around the same price as a typical roundtrip fare to the same destinations (or an average of the two). Sometimes it can be slightly more. In rare cases it can even be cheaper. Of course, you're still left with figuring out the cost of getting between the two airports.
One little trick I've learned with Kayak is to keep it on the 'roundtrip' option, and make your dates flexible (3 days before and after). And then in the 'To' box, enter up to a maximum of 4 destinations, using the 3 letter airport codes, separated by commas. For example, you could enter: BKK, SGN, SIN, CGK
This will search flights to all 4 of these popular Asian cities at once, and look for cheap multi-city combinations into one city and out of another. Many of the results will just be the typical roundtrip flights, but when you scroll down the results, look for the airport codes that are highlighted in pink. These are the flights involving two different cities.
To use this method effectively, you need to get to know the 3 letter airport codes for the destinations you're interested in. Just Google the name of the city, followed by 'airport code' and you should be able to find it quite easily. (Google usually shows it at the top, or on the right hand side of the page).
What about budget priced flights to Bangkok from U.S. airports within driving distance of Vancouver?
If you've ever read my guide about flying out of U.S. Airports within driving distance of Vancouver, you may know that I feel it could be worth the drive, when you see a flight from a U.S. airport to Bangkok that's at least a certain number of dollars less per person than from Vancouver.
How much cheaper it needs to be depends on which U.S. airport you're flying from. Below, I'll list how much cheaper I feel it should be from each Washington State airport, to be worth the drive.
From Bellingham (BLI)
I feel it could be worth the drive, when you see a flight from Bellingham to Bangkok that's at least $200 less per person than a flight from Vancouver. Typically though, international flights from Bellingham (BLI) are not significantly cheaper than from Vancouver (YVR), as it is a smaller airport, and it's strengths are serving U.S. destinations.
From Seattle (SEA)
I feel it could be worth the drive, when you see a flight from Seattle to Bangkok that's at least $350 less per person than a flight from Vancouver. It could happen, with Seattle being a major U.S. airport with many airlines. Typically though, the cheapest flights to Bangkok are around $200 cheaper from Seattle than from Vancouver.
I think I've found a great deal on a flight to Bangkok!
Excellent! Please share it with your fellow travel lovers, they will appreciate it and thank you for it! You can post it in the YVR Deals Facebook group (click 'Join Group', at the top-right, when you arrive), where thousands of people from Vancouver are crowd-sourcing the best deals, and sharing great travel advice.
Or if you prefer, you can always give me a shout through the YVR Deals contact form or on Twitter @YVRdeals or through Google Plus. Great deal finds are always appreciated.
Why should I trust this Vancouver guide to Bangkok travel?
 | The info in this guide is based on my observations of the travel industry over the years, including all the thousands of websites out there, and where all the different players get their prices from and how they interact with each other. The goal is to remove the noise of travel marketing, so people can stop wasting so much valuable time searching the same prices over and over. |
But, as social proof of it's accuracy, feel free to join the YVR Deals Facebook Group (click 'Join Group', at the top-right, when you arrive) and publicly disagree with any of it, or make a comment below. Critiques are always welcome!
I think I have some info that could help improve the Thai vacation flight deal guide!
Great! Please post your info in the Facebook group above, or contact me directly. Suggestions for improvement are always appreciated. Let me know if you see something that seems inaccurate or outdated.
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