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2013
27
June
Vancouver to New York | Getting The Best Flight Deals
27
June
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The Ydeals Noise-Free Guide To Getting The Best Deal On Flights To New York City From Vancouver
 | There are thousands of travel sites out there, all wanting you to believe they have unique or special prices on airfares to New York City. They don't. They use marketing noise to hide the fact that there is really only one source of unique prices on flights to New York. This guide will remove the noise and show you what that source is, so you can stop wasting so much time when searching for the best deal. |
What are the unique sources of prices on flights to New York from Vancouver ?
Unique Source #1 - The Major Airlines
There are 7 major airlines that fly to New York from Vancouver, and they are: Air Canada, Alaska Airlines, American Airlines, Cathay Pacific, Delta, United Airlines, and WestJet.
How many major airports does New York City have?
There are 3 airports that people commonly fly in to and out of when traveling to New York City From Vancouver.
- Newark (EWR)
- John F Kennedy (JFK)
- LaGuardia (LGA)
So which one should you fly into? They all offer decent transfer service to Manhattan, so it often comes down to which airline has the best price, that dictates which airport you'll be flying into. Newark (EWR) is usually considered to have the best public transportation to Manhattan via train, for a reasonable cost. Laguardia (LGA) is the closest to Manhattan, and both LaGuardia and JFK have shuttle service that connect with the New York subway system.
Where should I look to get the best flight deal to New York City?
All you need to do is search the major airlines, preferably all at once. My current favorite way to do this would be using Google Flights Explorer because you can just enter 'New York (all airports)' into the 'To' box, and see current airfares from all the major airlines, to all 3 New York City airports, at one time. Not to mention how easy it is to browse through different date combinations.
Even if you're planning to go for a longer date range than this tool supports (currently up to 2 weeks), it will give you an excellent idea of what the typical bottom price is right now to New York City, and which airline(s) it can be found on.
You can use Google Flights Explorer as a starting point, and then use a tool with more precise search options, such as...
My second favorite way would be to search using Kayak. It has all the sort and filter options I need, and searches all major airlines. Click on 'Make my dates flexible' and set it to '+/- 3 days'. You may be surprised how often being a little flexible with your dates can result in a better price.
In the 'To' box, enter New York (NYC) as your destination. With any decent travel search engine, when you use the airport code NYC, it will search all 3 major New York City airports at once (JFK, Laguardia, and Newark).
What about the thousands of other travel sites that have airfares to New York City?
This is the noise. There is no shortage of travel sites or brands trying to convince you that they have the cheapest flights to New York City from Vancouver. The truth is though, there's only one unique source of prices that they're gathering their airfare prices from, and that's the major airlines themselves. They can't offer a lower price on airfares to New York City than the airlines themselves, as there's virtually no markup.
There's a few reasons why I think B.C. travellers waste an enormous amount of time checking multiple websites, hoping for a better price than the one they already found (studies show it to be an average of 22 different sites over 10 periods of research!). The first reason is just human nature. We all want to compare prices and make sure we're getting the best deal.
But I think the biggest reason is simply the noise of travel marketing. With so many travel sites and brands competing for your attention, all hoping you'll book through them, combined with the fact that not one of them will *ever* admit to you that their source of prices is the same as everyone else, it's little wonder travelers waste so much time searching.
What about searching the airline's website directly?
There's nothing wrong with doing that. It's usually just a lot easier to search all of the airlines at once, with a better interface using a good search tool. It's amazing how poor many of the airline's search interfaces are. The fares found on any half-decent search engine will be the same as the fares found on the airline's own website.
One thing you can do is just use a flight search tool to scan all the airlines at once, and then go to the airline's own site to book it once you've figured out exactly which flight you want, and what the price is.
Another thing to be aware of is that the more sophisticated travel search engines can combine flights from multiple airlines to find cheaper options, especially on international flights, that you may not find on the airline's website.
What about my local Vancouver travel agency or independent travel agent in British Columbia?
They're seeing the same prices you are. Depending on the agency or agent, they may or may not charge you a 'booking fee' on top of the airfare price, for their time. As there's virtually no markup on the cost of flights, they can't offer you a price to New York that's any cheaper than from the airline, or from a search tool that properly searches the latest airfares.
When should I book a flight to New York to get the best price?
This is never an easy question to answer, as airfares are not 100% predictable. Airlines start by setting their price at a level they think will fill the maximum number of seats, based on the demand they expect to see.
If they experience less demand than they expected, they may decide to lower them. If they experience more demand than they expected, they may raise them. Unfortunately, a lot of factors that influence demand can be unpredictable.
How long a person can wait it out in hopes of a better price is a personal decision. Personally though, I am usually not afraid to watch prices on the major airlines up to about 8 weeks before departure in hopes of a better price without fear of the price rising. But everyone has a different tolerance for risk.
What about last minute flight deals to New York City?
Last minute airfare deals to New York on the major airlines don't really exist. Typical of most airfares on the major airlines, as you get fairly close to the departure date, if the airline has done their job correctly, and filled most of the seats on the plane, they feel the last remaining seats become more valuable, and often decide to raise the price.
What's a decent airfare price to New York?
From Vancouver, flights to New York tend to bottom out at around $450 to $500 roundtrip after taxes. This is just a general guideline though, based on average demand periods of the year.
Airfare prices are highly affected by demand. So anytime you can think of a reason that there might be higher demand than usual for travel to New York (such as dates when many people in Vancouver have vacation time) you can expect prices to react accordingly.
What about one way flights to New York?
You should have no trouble finding a one-way flight from Vancouver to New York for about 50-60% of the cost of a roundtrip flight. Use the same search techniques as for round-trip flights, and just change the search option in your favorite search tool to 'one-way'.
What about direct flights to New York from Vancouver?
From Vancouver, there are non-stop (direct) flights to New York on Cathay Pacific, who flies into JFK airport . Air Canada also has direct flights, and they fly into Newark (EWR).
The total flight time to New York from Vancouver is around 5 to 6 hours each way.
The distance from Vancouver to New York is 3,920 km (2,450 miles).
The time difference between Vancouver and New York is 3 hours. New York is 3 hours ahead of Vancouver.
What about a multi-city flight? Such as into one New York Airport and out of another ?
Searching for multi-city flights is still a bit of a pain. Even Google Explorer currently can't handle it, as there's too many possible combinations. I'm sure eventually someone (likely Google) will put enough processing power behind it and create something useful for searching multi-city fares.
But for now, you're stuck with searching one departure date at a time when it comes to multi-city fares and experimenting with different destination combinations. Most of the decent travel sites will offer a multi-city option (it should be right next to 'one-way' and 'round-trip').
Kayak would be my preferred option here. Just click on the 'multi-city' option and in the first box, enter in Vancouver to New York (JFK), or whatever airport you want to fly into, and then in the second box, enter Newark (EWR) to Vancouver, or whatever airport you want to fly out of.
Or, if you're willing to fly into *any* New York City airport, and out of a completely different city, you can enter in Vancouver to New York (NYC) in the From field, and it will search all 3 airports.
You never really know what you're going to get with a multi-city fare. It can often be around the same price as a typical roundtrip fare to the same destinations (or an average of the two). Sometimes it can be slightly more. In rare cases it can even be cheaper. Of course, you're still left with figuring out the cost of getting between the two airports.
One little trick I've learned with Kayak is to keep it on the 'roundtrip' option, and make your dates flexible (3 days before and after). And then in the 'To' box, enter up to a maximum of 4 destinations, using the 3 letter airport codes, separated by commas.
For example, you could enter: NYC, WAS, PHL, BOS into the box to search multi-city airfare combinations between Vancouver and New York City, Washington D.C., Philadelphia, and Boston.
This will search flights to all 4 of these popular Eastern U.S. destinations at once, and look for cheap multi-city combinations into one city and out of another. Many of the results will just be the typical roundtrip flights, but when you scroll down the results, look for the airport codes that are highlighted in pink. These are the flights involving two different cities.
To use this method effectively, you need to get to know the 3 letter airport codes for the destinations you're interested in. Just Google the name of the city, followed by 'airport code' and you should be able to find it quite easily. (Google usually shows it at the top, or on the right hand side of the page).
What about low-cost flights to New York from U.S. airports within driving distance of Vancouver?
If you've ever read my guide about flying out of U.S. airports within driving distance of Vancouver, you may know that I feel it could be worth the drive, when you see a flight from a U.S. airport to New York that's at least a certain number of dollars less per person than from Vancouver.
How much cheaper it needs to be depends on which U.S. airport you're flying from. Below, I'll list how much cheaper I feel it should be from each airport, to be worth the drive.
From Bellingham (BLI)
I feel it could be worth the drive, when you see a flight from Bellingham to New York that's at least $200 less per person than a flight from Vancouver.
It could happen, although in general, flight prices from Bellingham to New York are not significantly cheaper than from Vancouver.
From Seattle (SEA)
I feel it could be worth the drive, when you see a flight from Seattle to New York that's at least $350 less per person than a flight from Vancouver.
It can definitely happen, with Seattle being a major U.S. airport with many airlines. Typically though, the cheapest flights to New York are only about $150 cheaper from Seattle than they are from Vancouver.
I think I've found a great deal on a flight to New York!
Excellent! Please share it with your fellow Vancouver travel lovers, they will appreciate it and thank you for it! You can post it in the YVR Deals Facebook group (click 'Join Group', at the top-right, when you arrive), where thousands of travelers from Vancouver are crowd-sourcing the best deals, and sharing great travel advice.
Or if you prefer, you can always give me a shout through the YVR Deals contact form or on Twitter @YVRdeals or through Google Plus. Great deal finds are always appreciated.
Why should I trust this Vancouver flight guide to New York?
 | The info in this guide is based on my observations of the travel industry over the years, including all the thousands of websites out there, and where all the different players get their prices from and how they interact with each other. The goal is to remove the noise of travel marketing, so vacationers can stop wasting so much valuable time searching the same prices over and over. |
But, as social proof of it's accuracy, feel free to join the YVR Deals Facebook Group (click 'Join Group', at the top-right, when you arrive) and publicly disagree with any of it, or make a comment below. Critiques are always welcome!
I think I have some info that could help improve the Vancouver - New York flight deal guide!
Great! Please post your info in the Facebook group above, make a comment below, or contact me directly. Suggestions for improvement are always appreciated. Let me know if you see something that seems inaccurate or outdated.
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2012
15
November
Delta starts a fare war from Vancouver to New York, Washington D.C., Atlanta, Memphis, Salt Lake City - from $330 roundtrip after taxes, affecting flights up to October 2013!
15
November
2012
7
March
Vancouver to New York - from $316 roundtrip after taxes - cheapest ever?
7
March
Update: Chicago appears to be similarly priced.
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2011
6
September
Vancouver to New York City - $358 roundtrip after taxes
6
September
UPDATE: September 9th - Take this blog post, and substitute the city of New York for Philadelphia (PHL) or Charlotte (CLT) on United. They've dropped their prices to those cities down to about $329 roundtrip after taxes, across the board, throughout 2011 and 2012.
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2011
12
July
Vancouver to New York, Washington, or Cleveland $308 roundtrip after tax
12
July
Delta just made a massive price cut on their flights to Newark (EWR), Washington D.C., and Cleveland (CLE). When searching for Washington, use code WAS, which will search both airports.
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